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06 August 2011 @ 06:16 pm
beginner post!  
hey guys!
i've recently delved into (read: become obsessed with) the world of decoden recently and i've spent the weekend getting technique down. here's what i have so far:

now keep in mind that this isn't a serious deco or anything, just a space for perfecting technique. i haven't gotten any cabochons yet because i wanted to make sure i could do everything before really spending money. i used buttons in place because i wanted to test how everything goes.


i'm going to go ahead and say i've got the piping down.

this one is to show how my icing is looking. i actually dropped this midway through because i was startled, so it looked a LOT better 5 minutes before this picture :/

this is to show the detail of the macaron

that middle pink strip of creme is where i tried to color the silicone with oil pastels. it did not work at all as i'd hoped, but instead made white creme with chunky pink bits. gross. how do you color your silicone? or do you not use silicone at all?

i'm having a little bit of a problem with my clay. i got fimo basic air dry clay, and i'm not experienced with clay but i don't think it should be this difficult to work with. also, nearly impossible to color. i've tried oil pastels and acrylic paint. any suggestions? i colored my "macarons" once dry with acrylic paintand that seems to work alright, but i'd prefer the soft color that putting it in the clay would make. when i try, it just makes the clay really wet and fall apart like old chewing gum that you haven't taken out yet.

actually, i have a hard time with that clay in general. grrr. it kills my hands and doesn't seem to want to shape like anything but crap mush, but i read kawaiifrenzy's post about how it shows the most detail, and that you can mix it with polymer clay. i may try that, unless you guys tell me that brand is just crap anyway :/

anyway, i heard air dry clay was good for molds and i'd like to get some, if i can figure out how to color them. 

also, which of you guys do resin casts as well? i have a couple books on it as i tried to think about jewelry making a long while back. at some point when i'm more comfortable, i may try again. if you do resin casting, show me your work?
 
 
 
skylighter on August 7th, 2011 03:02 pm (UTC)
As far as air dry clay goes, you could use Delight air dry clay! It's very soft and lightweight, and super easy to work with. It also takes color from oil or chalk pastels very well! I got a package from Michael's for $6. I also recently got my hands on Fimo Light air dry clay; I have yet to open the package and work with it. I have heard good reviews from it though! If you don't want to buy Fimo clay in general, you can always get Hearty clay from Joann Fabrics. Their online inventory has it; I'm excited to get my hands on it because it's the most popular brand of air dry clay to use for decoden.

Also, you can color silicone with acrylic paint; it works well, just make sure to add enough paint so that the silicone takes the color. I use 100% silicone sealant, and it says "paintable" on the tube. Here's my second deco project; you can see that the pink whipped cream isn't 100% pink in some places because I didn't add enough paint: http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt353/teruchu/Sweets%20Deco/LovelySweets/DSC06468.jpg

This looks great so far, especially the piping. It takes practice! If you screw up on the piping somewhere, you can always cover it up with a cabochon. :)

If you're looking for tutorials on how to make various things using clay, I made a huuuuuuge tutorial post on my deco blog! http://lovelysweets.tumblr.com/post/7359627794/sweets-tutorials

Best of luck! I hope this helps ^_^
terarehired on August 7th, 2011 05:23 pm (UTC)
ooh your macaron tut is one of the best i've seen yet! i'm going to try it your way today and see what happens.

about the clay, maybe i'm kneading it wrong... most of the paint gets on my hands and the clay dries with the paint on my hands and it makes this colored chalk on my palms. the more i try to work it in, the paint just comes off in crumbs and makes the clay spotty, but still grey. that seems not normal...
terarehired on August 7th, 2011 05:24 pm (UTC)
also, i'm following your tumbly now :)
skylighter on August 7th, 2011 05:47 pm (UTC)
They're not my tutorials; I didn't make them! I just share them. :)

Kneading the clay wrong? Hmmm... I'm not sure there is a specific way to knead paint into clay, actually! Try making the clay bowl-shaped, and then put a few drops of paint in the middle (around 2-3 depending on how much clay you're working with). Then smush the bowl closed and work the clay in your hands until the color blends in. I do this with water when my Delight clay dries out; it might work with paint! Let me know how it goes :)

Oh lovely! I'll follow you on my main tumblr :D I hope you enjoy my deco blog posts! ^_^
terarehired on August 7th, 2011 08:52 pm (UTC)
also, i'm using 100% silicone and i tried to use acrylic paint, but it just got dried up really really quick and was super hard to pipe because of it. also, how do you clean out your piping tips? or do you just throw them away?
skylighter on August 7th, 2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
Silicone takes a while to dry, what brand are you using? I have a Sherwin WIlliams brand: http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt353/teruchu/Sweets%20Deco/LovelySweets/DSC06461.jpg

For the pink cream I made, I mixed the silicone and the paint in a Ziploc bag. I squeezed all the air out of the bag and kneaded it until I got pink silicone. This way, you use a corner of the bag for a piping tip, instead of using those expensive pastry bags. To clean my piping tips, I wash them with hot water and soap. The silicone comes right out! I have plastic tips and metal tips.

I hope this helps! :)
terarehired on August 8th, 2011 02:15 am (UTC)
ge waterproof 100% silicone window and door i figured since it was a 100% it was ok. i may try that brand though. should i be looking for paintable? i didn't know that was an option :/

i meant that it was drying in the bag while i was trying to pipe it. right there in the bag!
skylighter on August 8th, 2011 03:16 am (UTC)
Ohhh, okay. Well, I've seen posts on here that say that you can color any 100% silicone caulking. You said you use pastels? Try acrylic paint! "Paintable" happened to be on the tube; I found it in our garage. I don't think it matters whether or not it says "paintable" on it.

Oh! My goodness! If it's sealed up, it shouldn't dry by itself... That's so odd! What kind of bag are you using? A pastry bag, a Ziploc bag? It shouldn't dry up so quickly if you get all the air out of the bag. I have a small Ziploc bag of extra silicone in my decoden box, and it's been sitting there for weeks and it's still soft!
terarehired on August 8th, 2011 03:30 am (UTC)
oh no i was using acrylic paint first. that's when it dried up in the bag. completely clogged the tip. i prolly didn't have the air out of it though, it was a pastry bag. i will try that next. the most vexing problem is the clay though. i'm going to try tonight again and will post pix whether it goes well or not.
skylighter on August 8th, 2011 03:41 am (UTC)
Oh, I see. Well, try squeezing all of the air out first, to prevent it from drying. Adding tape around the piping tip also helps secure it in the bag and keeps air from getting in.

Best of luck with the clay! I'll be sure to check out your results. :)
terarehired on August 8th, 2011 08:20 pm (UTC)
 ok so this is what happened last night

this was the 3rd time i added paint and kneaded. i did it a little at a time so it wouldn't get all goopy. as you can see, there's a huge clay-y mess ALL over my hands. but THIS TIME, i will persevere.

after the fifth time, so roughly 15 drops. compared to the white starter clay, it's FINALLY picking up color.

this is at about 24 drops, and at a color i am satisfied with. i don't understand why my hands are so messy while i never see that in any tutorials or videos, and i've searched.

and here are my finished mini macs


they look  a lot better than my first ones already, but not as flat as i'd like yet.
that's really up to me, though. i'd really like to hear if you have any advice on the clay though!
skylighter on August 8th, 2011 09:43 pm (UTC)
Oh WOW! That really is a mess!

Hmmm... You said you're using Fimo Basic, right? I just opened my package of Fimo Light today, and I had zero problems getting the clay colored. I used acrylic paints and oil pastels and it worked really well. What a predicament! To be honest, I have no idea what could possibly be wrong except that Fimo Basic is a polymer clay; it's not very lightweight. Maybe this is why it's not taking color very well, and making your hands super messy. If you really want to use polymer clay, get a bunch of different colors. This can get expensive after a while, which is why I buy white lightweight clay (i.e. Fimo Light, which I find absolutely wonderful! I just made a review about it on my tumblr, if you're interested in reading it).

Lovely macaroons! The colors are really cute :D
terarehired on August 8th, 2011 09:46 pm (UTC)
it's actually fimo basic air dry paper clay. i have no idea what i'm doing wrong and google is no help at all!

i don't have any money right now to buy new clay, which is why i was trying so hard to make this work. i just don't know.
skylighter on August 8th, 2011 10:14 pm (UTC)
Oh my! Is it really air dry paper clay? Air dry paper clay doing that with paint is so strange! I have never experienced that before. I really have no idea what could be the problem. D:
terarehired on August 8th, 2011 11:01 pm (UTC)
oh no it does that with or without paint :(
skylighter on August 8th, 2011 11:04 pm (UTC)
Really? D: Then if that's the case, I suggest getting a different brand of clay, especially since it's so messy and uses so much paint. I'm sorry I can't help with this clay issue! >A<

I highly recommend Fimo Light clay though, give it a try if you can. It's air dry. Or, if you want pre-colored clay, you can't go wrong with polymer clay (it just needs baking).